Has anyone found a LexisNexis or Westlaw citation yet?
Shoshana
(baylor university, waco, tx) an essay entitled, "jehovah's witnesses, blood transfusions, and the tort of misrepresentation," found in the autumn issue of baylor universitys prestigious journal of church and state, published december 13, 2005, exposes the vulnerability of jehovahs witnesses religious organization to massive claims for compensation because of the religions misrepresentation of the medical risks of blood transfusions.
this milestone essay critically examines one of the religions main publications for teaching their children and new recruits about their blood beliefs, how can blood save your life?
the peer-reviewed essay details many misrepresentations of medical facts, which the religion partly relies on to support its blood prohibition, thus denying its members from making fully informed medical decisions.
Has anyone found a LexisNexis or Westlaw citation yet?
Shoshana
as a new unbaptized publisher, i would really like to know why some of you were disfellowshipped if you don't mind sharing your stories.
thanks.
I can see I hit some sort of nerve with you, knothead. You sound so angry. Why would something someone who knows nothing about you upset you so? I guess some people are good at never offering their opinion. Not me. Don't fret about our opinions. When you engage in an anonymous discussion on a free discussion board, you get what you pay for.
I hope the link I posted is helpful to your search. I think it was directly on point. But where are my manners? You're welcome for the link.
Shoshana
as a new unbaptized publisher, i would really like to know why some of you were disfellowshipped if you don't mind sharing your stories.
thanks.
If you want to know about others' personal experiences, you may find some insight from this link.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/32/78540/1.ashx
You are already living a double life and a lie. If your book study leader, or the congregation leaders knew you were reading the information on this site, associating with known apostates, and worse, posting here as well, you too would be "discarded." And it would be hard to show you didn't do these things with "greed," since you keep coming back to this board and the thread specifically solicits association with disfellowshipped persons. If it were me, I would find the cognitive dissonance in your current position unbearable. It takes being able to suppress and sublimate that conflict to be a good witness. I would think that even if you thought the WTBTS was the best thing going religion-wise, you would never be truly at peace when you were committing an intentional and premeditated disobedience that would result in your ejectment if you were caught.
Hopefully there are other endeavors in your life that you find interesting and fulfilling (like a career, family, or surfing the net...)
I will pray that you abandon them before they can reject you. You deserve a religion you can follow in peace and with which you can disagree openly without consequence. Many other religions have that.
Shoshana
(edited to correct a verb conjugation, while I still could)
as a new unbaptized publisher, i would really like to know why some of you were disfellowshipped if you don't mind sharing your stories.
thanks.
More importantly, you should be asking the person you have been studying with why people get disfellowshipped, and what happens to them if they are. You should ask if a person can get disfellowshipped for talking to a disfellowshipped person, or if a person can get disfellowshipped for disagreeing with doctrine and talking about it. If a person will be shunned if they simply don't want to be a Jehovah's Witness anymore, even if they don't do anything which would have warranted being shunned if they hadn't been baptized first.
Before you contract with the WTBTS by getting baptized be very certain you are willing to live with the results if you "breach" your agreement with them. If you never get baptized, then, you will not be subject to their control. Please visit this site often, and read all about all the tragic and sad tales that come from that religion.
You don't say how you came to be a "new unbaptized publisher" at the age of 34. If you do not already have a spouse, and you are hoping to find one in this cult, your odds are low.
I myself disassociated because when I sought a secular education (four-year college with the goal of a teaching certificate), I started to get ignored by most in the congregation, despite my proper conduct (in contrast to others' may age in the congregation). I realized the love in the congregation was conditional, and it was simply obvious that the religion was not the sole conduit to the divinity, or if it was, then God was not Love.... Also, as an intelligent and capable female, many of my abilities were rejected, ridiculed, or simply ignored so that the males could look better. I didn't think Jehovah would create women with the purpose that men could cut off their noses despite their faces, and not make use of their talents simply because they didn't come equipped with a penis.
I think it might be negligent on your part to go door-to-door seeking converts to this religion if you are not aware of the reasons potential converts could get kicked out of it. You should know what you are selling.
Please do not get baptized.
Shoshana
funny thing happened during my first year of law school.
i developed a little bump on my left wrist about this time of year-while i was preparing for my first round of exams.
it was not painful and i attributed it to the keyboard on my ibook (on which i could type fast-as-lightening) and the queen-sized blanket i had knitted the previous spring (which in and of itself prompted an epiphany that i probably could be doing something more productive with my time than knitting-like get a doctorate).. my bump accompanied me through my first, second and third year of law school, and into the final and fourth year.
Funny thing happened during my first year of law school. I developed a little bump on my left wrist about this time of year-while I was preparing for my first round of exams. It was not painful and I attributed it to the keyboard on my ibook (on which I could type fast-as-lightening) and the queen-sized blanket I had knitted the previous spring (which in and of itself prompted an epiphany that I probably could be doing something more productive with my time than knitting-like get a doctorate).
My bump accompanied me through my first, second and third year of law school, and into the final and fourth year. And as it wasn't painful, and it didn't interfere with any of my range of motion or any activities, I decided to wait until after the bar exam (July 2006) to deal with it. You see night-program law school while working full time leaves very little time to keep up with the momentum of one's existence.
People told me it was an accumulation of calcium, or it was a ganglion cyst, and that there was nothing to worry about unless it started to hurt. And so I didn't worry. And besides, it sort of kept me company in my "suffering' through law school. I could bend my hand and the bump would jut out-a shy, but ever present reminder that I had not escaped law school unscathed.
Until this morning. I awoke at my usual time of 5 a.m. and, for some reason, failed to turn on any lights before walking towards the kitchen to start the coffee. And I tripped. I tripped over some things I left on the floor of the living room before I went to bed last night. I was able to maintain some balance and slow my fall, but alas, there was no escaping the inevitable, I was going down. Gravity is so predictable.
Remarkably, I was basically uninjured, in any way. I came to my final resting place with my chin landing relatively softly on the carpet. I was already muttering "that was close" before I climbed back up to my former dignity and tried to save face in front of my dog. I expect a couple of bruises on my shins, where I banged them on the way down.
About an hour after the fall, while I sat at the kitchen table studying defenses to equitable remedies, I instinctively bent my wrist to acknowledge my partner in crime, and IT WAS GONE! I must have banged that exact part of my wrist on something when I fell-and ruptured the cyst. My wrist is a little tender, but only when I bent it backwards (as my friend said, "then don't do that"). I checked in with a nurse friend who assured me that so long as my movement was relatively normal, there was no tingling, numbness or coldness, that there was no need to seek medical attention. She told me that these things used to be called bible cysts because people banged bibles on them to rupture them. And finally she told me that this type of thing does not warrant postponing my Remedies exam on Tuesday. (Yeah, it's true, I was considering getting a doctor's note...)
But now, after three years with my little friend, it's gone, and I think I miss it. And for all of you that wake up one day and decide to go to law school....all the other typical warnings notwithstanding, befriending symptoms of repetitive strain injury is just one of the milder manifestations of craziness that law school produces. And writing stories about it as a study avoidance technique is another.
Shoshana
when i opened the door i was expecting the apartment maintance guy.
instead there were two guys with watchtowers.
one starts in on whatever his presentation was going to be and i stop him and say that i'm familiar with jehovah's witnesses, my wife has some witness relatives (true).
*** Watchtower 1979 April 1 p.31 Questions from Readers ***
I always fantasized that everything in the April Fool's issue of the Watchtower was really supposed to be a joke....They had to be kidding.
Shoshana
(who just never could grasp the need for a mediator between me and the divine in the first place....oh well)
i am about to enter my second semester in college and sure i know: i've got time to decide what i want to do as far as a major goes, but my school is converting into a brand new college by fall of 06 and they are urging those who are there now to hurry up and finish asap since transfering credits and such will soon get tricky once the new college is established.
my counselor says not to worry.
i still have until about the fall of 07' but i still feel i am in the dark.. what did you major in college or what is your major now?
I know numerous RNs and Nurse Practitioners who looooove their work. The demand for fully qualified nurses, with their bachelors of science or masters is huge. They have many job options, scheduling flexibility, job portability, and the pay is great. I know several doctors too. They claim they love their jobs, but they don't glow with satisfaction like the nurses I know. I agree with Elsewhere. Why be an assistant when you can be the real deal. Myself? I got a bachelors in Music and immediately went on to graduate school in education. I teach high school math (not music). Now, more than 15 years later, I have returned to school and will finish my law degree (juris doctorate) in April. They say most people change careers three times in their lives. Don't feel that if you pick something now, it's forever. It could be for five or ten years and you change your mind. There's lots to do out here, a choice now doesn't close off other options. Shoshana
our child goes to an after school child care provide by the local y. it's right at her elementary school, so after class she just goes there to another class room with the other kids and they play games, do homework etc, till we pick her up after work.
she's gone there for two years and liked it.
she has lots of friends at school and gets along with just about everyone.
I was going to say the same thing, about it being an extension of the school.
But do your homework first, before going to the school authorities. At one point you probably filled out paperwork that included the behavior policy and consequences for children who violated these policies. If there were none, well, then, the Y and the school district are grossly negligent. But I bet there are some. Point out to the Y administration how the local site is failing to observe its own policies.
(If children are a danger to others in an optional program, then just imaging what it might be like out on the playground during the compulsory education part of the day...)
And don't go to the principal. The principal probably has no authority over the staff of the program within this context. This is run by the Y, the Y probably pays for the facility. However, the school district probably has a liaison person (assistant superintendent) coordinating these programs between the Y and the school sites. Don't waste time on a principal who sees her job as being hostess with the mostest (my experience with dozens of elementary-type principals).
While I never condone bullying behavior of any kind on my watch in my high school classroom and surrounding environment, I can't be evertwhere. There are two pieces of the picture here. Some kids get picked on. I can smell them from across campus. I call them "Bully Bait." Some do obvious things, with others it's very subtle. Get your girl in martial arts. A dignity of character shows up very quickly in these kids. The subtle change makes all the difference.
Protect your baby, but realize that this is not an isolated problem-it will could show up elsewhere.
Love on that baby-girl.
Shoshana
as many of you know, i have a myspace.com account.. apparently, while i was out last night, someone called my mother and informed her of my activities on myspace.
my mother called and asked me for my login info, and was shocked to see me, and around 40 witnesses in my area having active profiles.
contents of these profile ranged from a few pictures to downright self-incrimination.
Tuned in for my morning cup of Trouble for Richie, and noted what jgnat said.
I want to add, that the elders have probably sensed what your future holds (if they have not downright predicted it amongst themselves). If that is the case, your mother is soon to be a sole "sister" with an unbelieving mate, and is of no use to them.
They won't waste time trying to get you if they know they have lost, and they won't help her because she has nothing left to offer them. I saw this happen to my mom (my dad is not a JW) when my two brothers did their respective straying.
Your mom got the brush off and perhaps she realized that all she really has is you and your dad. For my mom, she still jumps through hoops trying to maintain imaginary status in her congregation (everyone uses her kind heart and generous spirit).
Try not to abandoned your mom if it can be avoided. Now study hard.
Shoshana
i tried to go to walmart this morning.. this story's origin began last april, when, just days before my final exams, my gateway laptop went nuts.
as a third year law student, having taken her exams for the the entire duration on computer, the notion of changing my exam approach to bluebook was out of the question.. i was able to obtain, for the short term, another laptop and survived third year just fine.. however, it took three rounds of repairs to get my computer back in working order for more than three weeks (gateway kept replacing the hard drive, but it was the motherboard that was failing-good news was that they only charged me for one disk drive, and not for the mother board eventually installed.).
and i am not the kind of person that feels comfortable with the "what ifs" so when about a few days ago, my gateway laptop went to a screen that i only saw before each of the three prior "deaths," i decided that my peace of mind was worth many hundreds of dollars and decided to get a "backup" laptop, considering i have two more rounds of exams and the bar exam through which i need a reliable computer.. i tried to order the sub-500 dell, but it wouldn't arrive in time for december's exams, so i started looking at the other offers out and about.. that meant i actually had to go to a brick and mortar establishment so i would have a computer in hand, rather than in some shipping queue.. i am not much of a consumer.
LT
I was right at the counter of the kiosk. The clerk handed me one, and I handed it to the woman behind me, (the one that Fat Man had pushed me past) saying, "I got pushed passed her," to the clerk. So the clerk handed me another one and said "thank you." I DID NOT hand that one to Fat Man. (Should I have thanked him? Now I'll obsess (not).)
Shoshana